Don’t worry about the harsh conditions. My goji plants are doing really well in an area where in winter the temperature is about -13 F(-25 celsius) and in the summer, around 95-100 F (35-40 celsius). In my country, Lycium Barbarum is considered an invasive specie. Every area in my Country that I visited is populated with Goji plants. I took cuttings from wild Goji plants and grown them in my garden. The result was more and bigger fruit than the wild plants.

I have found this thread fascinating.

I would like to correct some misinformation regarding urine and gardens that Polninnia was spreading about earlier in the thread. While it is true a plant could be harmed by too much urine, this is for the same reason it could be harmed by too much commercial fertilizer. Polninnia, there have been scientific studies showing that a combination of human urine and wood ashes supply everything most vegetable gardens would need. One study showed this combination out-performing commercial fertilizers. In the studies, urine was diluted with water to give wider coverage and prevent burning. I would advise you to read the following before leaving another trail of misinformed opinions:

http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=human-urine-is-an-effective-fertilizer

To other posters: like Rod, I have used dilute urine in the garden with great success. It can also be used to activate or enrich a compost pile. I have had no problems and it works quite well. Studies have shown that one person’s urine output of one week, along with ashes, is enough for a 100 sq. foot garden, depending on rainfall dilution and other factors. It does not make a stinky garden. Manures make a much more pungent smell for a short time and we all love manures in the garden.

Molninnia, your observations of brown spots in your lawn does not constitute a scientific study. It just shows that if a section of grass gets over-fertilized it will die. Sprinkle pure fertilizer from the package on the lawn and you will see the same brown spots. Also, just because you have NOT heard something on your radio garden show does not mean that the thing does NOT exist. Read the study above to see what I mean by that. And, I was struggling to understand your idea that if “urine was effective, the campuses would be lush jungles”. Did you attend or work at a college where everyone urinates in public on the lawns? I’ve never been on a campus where this was standard practice. They have restrooms. On the other hand, all jungle and forest animals and birds urinate or defecate on the soil. All day long. And the jungles are lush, see? Are you going to tell the wild pigs and squirrels, too, that “their urine and feces belongs in the toilet”?

What you do not understand is that urine placed at the base of a plant does not “make it to the rivers”. It is transformed by the plant and by soil microbes. In no time at all it is no longer urine. In the same way that coffee grounds or banana peels placed around plants do not make it the oceans. Now: You are correct that if if the urination is to be done INSIDE the house, then the urine does belong in the toilet. You should not urinate or defecate outside of the toilet if you are in the house. It should not go on the floor or around the bed or eating areas.

And here’s some advice: If you wish so badly that someone spend their time and money sending you a goji cutting, you should not tell someone that was kind to you, “you are the only one that responded to my request ;-( ” You probably turned off potential donors with that angry wink face.